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Heuristic:Sail sg LongSpec NCCL Distributed Settings

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Last Updated 2026-02-14 06:00 GMT

Overview

Environment variable configuration for NCCL distributed communication and DeepSpeed initialization, including blocking wait mode, async error handling, extended timeouts, and WandB service wait for stable multi-GPU training.

Description

LongSpec's trainer sets four environment variables before Hydra/DeepSpeed initialization to ensure stable multi-GPU communication. These settings address common distributed training failure modes: deadlocks during collective operations, silent communication errors, WandB service connection timeouts, and NCCL operation hangs during long data loading phases.

Usage

Apply this heuristic when running distributed training on 8+ GPUs. These settings are hardcoded in the trainer entry point but may need adjustment for different cluster configurations (e.g., multi-node setups may need even longer timeouts).

The Insight (Rule of Thumb)

  • Action 1: Set `NCCL_BLOCKING_WAIT=1` before distributed init.
  • Value: Makes NCCL operations blocking, which means the process will wait for the operation to complete rather than returning immediately.
  • Trade-off: Slightly slower collective operations, but makes deadlocks detectable and debuggable instead of silently hanging.
  • Action 2: Set `NCCL_ASYNC_ERROR_HANDLING=1` before distributed init.
  • Value: Enables asynchronous error detection in NCCL operations. When a GPU encounters an error, it propagates to other ranks quickly.
  • Trade-off: Small overhead for error checking, but catches communication failures that would otherwise cause silent corruption.
  • Action 3: Set DeepSpeed init timeout to 9600 seconds (160 minutes).
  • Value: `deepspeed.init_distributed(dist_backend="nccl", timeout=datetime.timedelta(seconds=9600))`
  • Trade-off: Long timeout accommodates slow model loading and data preprocessing but delays detection of genuine startup failures.
  • Action 4: Set `WANDB__SERVICE_WAIT=1200` (20 minutes).
  • Value: Extends WandB service connection timeout from default 30s to 1200s.
  • Trade-off: Prevents WandB timeout errors during slow distributed setup, but delays detection of actual WandB connectivity issues.

Reasoning

Multi-GPU training with DeepSpeed involves multiple synchronization points: distributed initialization, model sharding (ZeRO), data loading barriers, and gradient allreduce. Each of these can cause hangs if one process is slower than others. The combination of NCCL blocking wait + async error handling ensures that:

  1. Hung processes are detected rather than silently waiting forever.
  2. Communication errors propagate quickly to all ranks so the job fails cleanly rather than producing corrupt gradients.
  3. The extended timeouts accommodate the significant startup time when loading 32B+ parameter models and processing large datasets.

The 9600s DeepSpeed timeout is particularly important because model initialization (downloading, loading, and sharding weights for QwQ-32B-Preview) can take significant time, especially on the first run without cached weights.

Code Evidence

Environment variables from `trainer_base_ds_mul_fs_tp.py:449-452`:

os.environ["HYDRA_FULL_ERROR"] = "1"
os.environ["WANDB__SERVICE_WAIT"] = "1200"
os.environ["NCCL_BLOCKING_WAIT"] = "1"
os.environ["NCCL_ASYNC_ERROR_HANDLING"] = "1"

Extended DeepSpeed timeout from `trainer_base_ds_mul_fs_tp.py:353`:

deepspeed.init_distributed(dist_backend="nccl", timeout=datetime.timedelta(seconds=9600))

Data loading barrier pattern from `training_utils.py:125-126`:

if getattr(cfg, "dist_load_data_barrier", True) and if_barrier and cfg.local_rank not in [-1, 0]:
    dist.barrier()  # Make sure only the first process in distributed training process the dataset

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